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« on: June 16, 2008, 03:05:32 PM »

My husband just proposed and we have been looking around at rings together. He recently found a really good offer on a ring that I really like online, but it's not being sold by a retailer. It's really expensive and I am nervous we are getting ripped off. I just don't know if its trustworthy to buy diamond jewelry online especially if we can't be sure if it's certified or not. What are your opinions? It's a really unique cut that I haven't been able to find at any store.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 08:41:11 PM »

Dear Sarah:

Don't buy anything if you have reservations.  Listen to that little voice inside your head!  Also, always insist on a GIA report.  That way, you know what you are getting.

Find a jeweler that you trust, show them the design, and have it made for you.

DBL is a good choice from personal experience, but you should do what is most comfortable for you.

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 10:42:48 AM »

I think you should buy from a reputable diamond dealer or jeweler you trust.

I would also  suggest you buy only a certified diamond,one that is easily identifible  as the diamond in the report.

Beware of bogus appraisals and "certifications " from no  name labs.Stick with GIA, EGL and those  easily  verified.

Make sure you have a return policy  should the diamond not live up to your expectations ( if purchased on line) Some dealers also offer  trade up polices, check those out throroughly!

Use a credit card for additional protection and check out he company  via BBB ,even google them for complaints.

I have sucessfully purchased quite a few pricey high end items on the web  but always buy from trusted vendors, where I get their expert opinion and I have not been disappointed.

Good luck with your search
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 11:58:09 AM »

Hi Sarah, congratulations on your engagement!  But, I'm a little confused... you wrote that your "husband" just "proposed."  Isn't that putting the cart before the horse, so to speak?

Anyway, whatever the scenario, welcome to CDI and I hope that you enjoy your hunt for the perfect diamond. 

I agree, trust your little voice.  There are plenty of wonderful places to purchase a diamond online, just as there are lots of not-so-great places to purchase a diamond online.  And, always remember: there are a GAZILLION diamonds out there; there WILL be another to strike your fancy! I would be very cautious about buying ANYTHING online from an individual you do not know.  If something goes wrong, or is not to your liking or expectations, what recourse do you have?  Make sure you know the answer before entering into an agreement. I'm sure you know this already... Do your homework. Read and talk to as many people as you can... clients AND sellers. The wheat will separate from the chaff, so to speak.

For what it is worth, you'd be in very good hands at Diamonds By Lauren. Perhaps, David can find something special for you that isn't listed just now?

Regardless... Have a ball shopping!  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 01:15:07 PM »

HI Everyone!
Some great advice given.
In terms of buying from an individual: Compare it to buying a used car.
If a reputable dealer has a used car, it will come with guarantees. Plus, a dealership has to be concerned about their reputation.
A guy with a car in his driveway sells a used car AS IS ( I love watching People's Court- Judge Marilyn...)
Anyway the guy selling the car is offering a lot less- therefore, his price had better be a lot less than a reputable dealer offing a used vehicle.

When considering a diamond, the same rules apply. If you purchase from a reputable dealer, make sure they offer a money back guarantee. The price a private individual charges should be WAY less - at least 25%- if not more- than you'd pay a competitive internet dealer.

It's true that many of the offers you see online are bogus- but I walk down 47th Street to our office every day and find quite a few brick and mortar stores showing questionable ethics as well.
In some ways, online sellers may be easier to check out. For one thing, a bogus sales pitch - written on the internet- is pretty easy to spot.
As Red hatter suggested, "Google" them.
Also a good suggestion is choosing a merchant that accepts Credit cards directly. PayPal is useful for private individuals who want to sell things and accept credit cards- but you have better protection if you purchase from a merchant who can accept your card directly.

I do disagree with RedHatter regarding what she terms "Certified" diamonds- diamonds are NOT certified.
There are labs that issue "Reports" identifying diamonds, but no lab "certifies" a diamond.

RedHatter mentioned two labs, but dealers trust only ONE lab - GIA- for the bulk of high dollar diamonds ( NOTE: the only suitable alternative is AGS- but they specialize mainly in "Ideal" cut round diamonds. You'll find 100 stones with GIA report for every AGS report you'll see)

SO- If you see a seller pushing diamond with ANY OTHER REPORT- and they are not letting you know that the report is not taken seriously in the trade-RUN, do not walk away.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 11:13:41 PM »

AGS....  who are they? i have never heard of them. i suppose the certified stones at the local jewelry stores at the mall aren't worth the extra money.... i believe there certified by IGI.....     

only GIA for me!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2008, 09:28:04 AM »

Dear Saqsay -

From what I understand, AGS is as reputable lab as is GIA but not as nearly well known due to the fact that GIA grades a much larger number of stones.  They were also the first to assess cut before the GIA started doing this.  I think AGS invented the ideal cut proportions for RB, EC and princess cuts.  AGS doesn't assign a color grade for fancy colored diamonds, though. 

Anyone out there, please correct me if I've misstated anything here.

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2008, 05:39:23 PM »

Hi everyone!
Mikla. thanks for giving me the opportunity to address some of these issues.
In terms industry acceptance of grades- the most important aspect of any lab- AGSL is accepted at face value with a GIA report. No other lab is on the same level.

If I'm not mistaken they grade fancy colors as well.
You correctly mentioned that statistically AGS represents a tiny percentage of volume compared to GIA.


You mentioned of "Ideal" cut- which brings up some interesting aspects.
Currently GIA offers a "Cut Grade" on Round Brilliant Cut Diamonds.
Prior to 2006, AGSL was the only one of the two grading Round Diamonds for Cut.
People would look for AGS "Triple X"  Round Diamonds.

In fact, GIA's "Excellent" Cut Grade includes a far wider combination of Table /Depth Combinations.

At Harry Winston, where I was trained in diamonds, the "perfect" diamond was generally a 60/60- 60% depth, 60% table.
Under the old AGS cut grades, this diamond could not have been classified as "Ideal"
GIA changed all that nonsense.
I must say that I did feel vindicated when GIA announced what would constitute an "Excellent" cut grade- and it includes the best cut 60/60 diamonds.

In terms of the other shapes- I believe AGS has coined the phase "Ideal" and applied it to Princess Cuts- but again, I feel that this is narrow in perspective.

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2008, 07:22:58 PM »

I stand corrected- apparently I was mistaken!

 
If I'm not mistaken they grade fancy colors as well.

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